CSUF Revised EO 1100 Questions and Answers
(stemming from multiple sources)
1. The EO collapses Area C into 2 categories and we currently have 4. Are we allowed to add categories to the two for greater direction of which courses to take? The same is a bigger issue in Area D of course. (answered in # 13 of the recent FAQ)
The two Subareas in Area C within the systemwide requirement in EO 1100 Revised is unchanged from the previous version of EO 1100. There is only C1 and C2. EO 1100 requires only that students take 12 units in Area C, 9 of which must be LD (3 in C1, 3 in C2), and 3 of which must be at the UD. There is no directive in EO 1100 Revised concerning the remaining 3 LD units.
2. Are we allowed to put some overall requirements such as "X number of units must be from each college"?
If this in any way restricts a student’s ability to double count, no.
3. Double counting must be allowed but is there a limit we can place on that? Could we limit it to no more than 9 units double counted, 12 units, etc?
4. The EO seems to encourage students to take upper division GE courses online from any campus with no residency requirement on the host campus for those 9 units.
The intent is not to encourage students to do so it is to make certain that students who do happen to take an UD GE course at another campus are not penalized for doing so. Is there a way to limit that for at least some of the units? No, so long as the units are taken at another CSU and are UD GE certified at that CSU, they should not be restricted.
5. Campuses are allowed to make reasonable adjustments to the number of units assigned to any of the five required areas (A through E). How much flexibility does that really give us?
The campus needs to stay within the overall limits established within EO 1100 Revised.
6. Do 132 unit degrees (e.g., BFA) need to be reduced?
Not due to GE/EO 1100 Revised. If there are other degree requirements that essentially force a student in a BFA (for example additional foreign language requirements that are not counted towards the 132 degree units) that might be an issue, but it is not a GE issue.
7. Do all GE course have to be 3-unit courses? (answered in #18 of the recent FAQ)
There needs to be 3 unit course options available to a student (except in B3). If a student chooses a 4 or 5 unit course that is there choice.
8. Do all GE courses have to be 3-unit courses? (answered in #17 of the recent FAQ)
Same as above.
9. My biggest query concerns campus reciprocity, as listed on page 15 of the Executive Order. It makes me wonder whether if we say accept a course from say Cal State San Marcos for our major electives (an unusual elective say "Economics of the Internet"), and if it counts for upper-division GE credit there, would it also by default count for upper-division GE credit here at CSUF? And by default, courses we teach at the upper-division (ie. ECON 362 Environmental Economics), which counts as one of our major electives and for GE credit, would it also carry the double count if a student from CSU Long Beach takes it here?
EO 1100 Revised is only about GE courses. If a student takes the example course from San Marcos, whether or not it counts towards the major is up to the Fullerton campus department. However, if it has GE certification at CSUSM, then Fullerton must honor that GE status. In the second example the GE status would be portable from CSUF to CSULB.
10. With the recent narrative coming from the CFA, what is the expected impact on deadlines and/or other implementations of the revised EO 1100?
I’ve only heard generally about what CFA is asking so I can’t really be specific here, however, we have not had any discussions about changing the timeline or implementation.
11. From what I’m reading the ‘Fall 2018’ implementation means the 2018/19 catalog year and beyond? Catalog ‘go live’ timeframes at Fullerton are in mid spring. Does this mean that our campus Policies, Catalog, Curriculum, Registration Guide, Websites and promotional literature must all be up-to-speed by February? Likewise, has there been any consideration of unintended consequences for the potential glut of students that will likely change their catalog year to 18/19 noting the value in double counting etc.?
Yes, the catalogs for 2018-19 need to be updated which means your February deadline. Students should be reminded that if they change their catalog year it may impact their major requirements as well.
12. If an ADT is a ‘contract’ between the CC and CSU to bridge a student into a particular area of study…and that student then changes their major upon arrival at the CSU, the student would have their GE completed free and clear…correct? (partially answered in #22 of the recent FAQ)
If a student completes an ADT it is the same as having entered as “fully-certified” in LD GE. Even if they change majors you cannot hold them to any additional LD GE requirements.
13. Can the current (50 plus) 300 level courses that we have in Area E remain there to satisfy E ONLY (not UD GE requirements). In other words, a native freshman might take a 300 level E course to satisfy that GE Area, but would still need 9 units of UD in other areas?
Campuses can continue to have UD courses in Area E, but those courses will NOT count towards the 9 units of UD GE required (must be in B, C, and D only).
Moving forward, there will be very few students who will want to enroll in UD Area E courses.
- Native freshmen cannot take UD GE courses (section 2.2.3 of the EO).
- UD GE is to be taken after 60 units.
- The only caveat is if a LD student has already completed the Golden 4 then they may be permitted to take UD GE.
So there really is no point in having UD GE in Area E as the students who can take those classes will diminish in number as this revision comes into full effect. It would probably be best to revise the courses and make them LD or create additional LD options in Area E.
Concerns Regarding Cultural Diversity, ethnic studies, etc.
The CSU GE policy does not exclude any discipline or content from the CSU General Education Breadth A-E distribution areas. The following clarification is in response to concerns we have heard regarding cultural diversity and ethnic studies (and similar) courses.
Within the 48-unit total GE limit and within the GE distribution area unit-limits:
- Campuses may continue requiring cultural diversity courses as a campus-specific graduation requirement, either outside GE or within GE requirements.
- GE-approved cultural diversity courses or ethnic studies will double count with GE requirements.
- Campuses may require cultural diversity courses as a degree (graduation) requirement that “overlays” GE. When students complete the cultural diversity course, the associated GE requirement is also satisfied.
- Campus GE-approved cultural diversity and ethnic studies courses must now double count with GE requirements, per EO 1100, subsection 220.127.116.11.
- Title 5 bachelor’s degree unit-limits and Chancellor-approved high-unit exceptions remain in effect.
This issue is addressed in the EO 1100 FAQ, questions 13 and 14. In the current sociopolitical environment, responsible stewardship of our cultural diversity courses is vital to making our mission a lived reality for CSU students.